Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet. Quae animi affectio suum cuique tribuens atque hanc, quam dico. Is ita vivebat, ut nulla tam exquisita posset inveniri voluptas, qua non abundaret. Quid turpius quam sapientis vitam ex insipientium sermone pendere? Sed tamen omne, quod de re bona dilucide dicitur, mihi praeclare dici videtur. At cum de plurimis eadem dicit, tum certe de maximis. De ingenio eius in his disputationibus, non de moribus quaeritur.

Eorum enim est haec querela, qui sibi cari sunt seseque diligunt. At, si voluptas esset bonum, desideraret. Summum ením bonum exposuit vacuitatem doloris; Ad corpus diceres pertinere-, sed ea, quae dixi, ad corpusne refers?

His similes sunt omnes, qui virtuti student levantur vitiis, levantur erroribus, nisi forte censes Ti. Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto. Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt.

Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius. Nec vero sum nescius esse utilitatem in historia, non modo voluptatem. Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; Sed ego in hoc resisto; Rapior illuc, revocat autem Antiochus, nec est praeterea, quem audiamus. Quae cum dixisset paulumque institisset, Quid est? Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Quod cum accidisset ut alter alterum necopinato videremus, surrexit statim. Vide igitur ne non debeas verbis nostris uti, sententiis tuis. Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto. Indicant pueri, in quibus ut in speculis natura cernitur.

Sin te auctoritas commovebat, nobisne omnibus et Platoni ipsi nescio quem illum anteponebas? Dic in quovis conventu te omnia facere, ne doleas. Eodem modo is enim tibi nemo dabit, quod, expetendum sit, id esse laudabile. Quid ergo aliud intellegetur nisi uti ne quae pars naturae neglegatur? Dolere malum est: in crucem qui agitur, beatus esse non

potest. Hic nihil fuit, quod quaereremus. Quid affers, cur Thorius, cur Caius Postumius, cur omnium horum magister, Orata, non iucundissime vixerit? Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus;

Quid est, quod ab ea absolvi et perfici debeat? Fortasse id optimum, sed ubi illud: Plus semper voluptatis? Bork Cur igitur easdem res, inquam, Peripateticis dicentibus verbum nullum est, quod non intellegatur? Sed quid attinet de rebus tam apertis plura requirere? Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Quis animo aequo videt eum, quem inpure ac flagitiose putet vivere?

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed tu istuc dixti bene Latine, parum plane. Nihil acciderat ei, quod nollet, nisi quod anulum, quo delectabatur, in mari abiecerat. Aliter homines, aliter philosophos loqui putas oportere? Illa argumenta propria videamus, cur omnia sint paria peccata. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Illa tamen simplicia, vestra versuta. Nemo igitur esse beatus potest. Plane idem, inquit, et maxima quidem, qua fieri nulla maior potest. Dulce amarum, leve asperum, prope longe, stare movere, quadratum rotundum. Bonum integritas corporis: misera debilitas.

Quid ei reliquisti, nisi te, quoquo modo loqueretur, intellegere, quid diceret? Esse enim, nisi eris, non potes. Quarum ambarum rerum cum medicinam pollicetur, luxuriae licentiam pollicetur.

Invidiosum nomen est, infame, suspectum. Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. Hoc loco tenere se Triarius non potuit. Hos contra singulos dici est melius. An me, inquis, tam amentem putas, ut apud imperitos isto modo loquar? Sit hoc ultimum bonorum, quod nunc a me defenditur; Ab hoc autem quaedam non melius quam veteres, quaedam omnino relicta. Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit.

Sed quid ages tandem, si utilitas ab amicitia, ut fit saepe, defecerit? Sic vester sapiens magno aliquo

emolumento commotus cicuta, si opus erit, dimicabit. Ergo ita: non posse honeste vivi, nisi honeste vivatur? Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio.

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