Falli igitur possumus. Semper enim ita adsumit aliquid, ut ea, quae prima dederit, non deserat. Tu vero, inquam, ducas licet, si sequetur; Sed ego in hoc resisto; Itaque primos congressus copulationesque et consuetudinum instituendarum voluntates fieri propter voluptatem; Qui igitur convenit ab alia voluptate dicere naturam proficisci, in alia summum bonum ponere? Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Si alia sentit, inquam, alia loquitur, numquam intellegam quid sentiat; An vero, inquit, quisquam potest probare, quod perceptfum, quod. Sed quid attinet de rebus tam apertis plura requirere?

Cur iustitia laudatur? Bork Atqui reperies, inquit, in hoc quidem pertinacem; Totum autem id externum est, et quod externum, id in casu est. Videmusne ut pueri ne verberibus quidem a contemplandis rebus perquirendisque deterreantur? Etenim si delectamur, cum scribimus, quis est tam invidus, qui ab eo nos abducat?

Nonne igitur tibi videntur, inquit, mala? Et quod est munus, quod opus sapientiae? Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Idem etiam dolorem saepe perpetiuntur, ne, si id non faciant, incidant in maiorem. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Bonum liberi: misera orbitas.

Semper enim ex eo, quod maximas partes continet latissimeque funditur, tota res appellatur. Videamus igitur sententias eorum, tum ad verba redeamus. An quod ita callida est, ut optime possit architectari voluptates? Id est enim, de quo quaerimus. Quid, quod homines infima fortuna, nulla spe rerum gerendarum, opifices denique delectantur historia? Est tamen ea secundum naturam multoque nos ad se expetendam magis hortatur quam superiora omnia.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Multoque hoc melius nos veriusque quam Stoici. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Quae diligentissime contra Aristonem dicuntur a Chryippo. Nec mihi illud dixeris:

Haec enim ipsa mihi sunt voluptati, et erant illa Torquatis. Videsne quam sit magna dissensio? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Expressa vero in iis aetatibus, quae iam confirmatae sunt. Suo enim quisque studio maxime ducitur. Bork Hoc non est positum in nostra actione.

Quis suae urbis conservatorem Codrum, quis Erechthei filias non maxime laudat? Aut haec tibi, Torquate, sunt vituperanda aut patrocinium voluptatis repudiandum. Rationis enim perfectio est virtus; Non quam nostram quidem, inquit Pomponius iocans; Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Nam diligi et carum esse iucundum est propterea, quia tutiorem vitam et voluptatem pleniorem efficit. Quis animo aequo videt eum, quem inpure ac flagitiose putet vivere?

Mihi vero, inquit, placet agi subtilius et, ut ipse dixisti, pressius. Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Mihi enim satis est, ipsis non satis. Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt. Tu quidem reddes; In his igitur partibus duabus nihil erat, quod Zeno commutare gestiret. Quo invento omnis ab eo quasi capite de summo bono et malo disputatio ducitur. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus.

Sin tantum modo ad indicia veteris memoriae cognoscenda, curiosorum. Si qua in iis corrigere voluit, deteriora fecit. Sit hoc ultimum bonorum, quod nunc a me defenditur; Sed ille, ut dixi, vitiose. Callipho ad virtutem nihil adiunxit nisi voluptatem, Diodorus vacuitatem doloris.

Res tota, Torquate, non doctorum hominum, velle post mortem epulis celebrari memoriam sui nominis. Et certamen honestum et disputatio splendida! omnis est enim de virtutis dignitate contentio. Semovenda est igitur voluptas, non solum ut recta sequamini, sed etiam ut loqui deceat frugaliter. Sit enim idem caecus, debilis. Expressa vero in iis aetatibus, quae iam confirmatae sunt. Fortasse id optimum, sed ubi illud: Plus semper

voluptatis? Et harum quidem rerum facilis est et expedita distinctio. Vos autem cum perspicuis dubia debeatis illustrare, dubiis perspicua conamini tollere. Hanc quoque iucunditatem, si vis, transfer in animum; Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni? Itaque primos congressus copulationesque et consuetudinum instituendarum voluntates fieri propter voluptatem; Idemne, quod iucunde?

Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam. Tum Piso: Quoniam igitur aliquid omnes, quid Lucius noster? Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Putabam equidem satis, inquit, me dixisse. Si stante, hoc natura videlicet vult, salvam esse se, quod concedimus; Homines optimi non intellegunt totam rationem everti, si ita res se habeat. Reguli reiciendam;

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