Nullus est igitur cuiusquam dies natalis. Ab his oratores, ab his imperatores ac rerum publicarum principes extiterunt. Neque enim disputari sine reprehensione nec cum iracundia aut pertinacia recte disputari potest. An eum locum libenter invisit, ubi Demosthenes et Aeschines inter se decertare soliti sunt? Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt. Sed nunc, quod agimus; Rhetorice igitur, inquam, nos mavis quam dialectice disputare? Qui autem voluptate vitam effici beatam putabit, qui sibi is conveniet, si negabit voluptatem crescere longinquitate?

Item de contrariis, a quibus ad genera formasque generum venerunt. Color egregius, integra valitudo, summa gratia, vita denique conferta voluptatum omnium varietate. Hoc loco discipulos quaerere videtur, ut, qui asoti esse velint, philosophi ante fiant. Vives, inquit Aristo, magnifice atque praeclare, quod erit cumque visum ages, numquam angere, numquam cupies, numquam timebis. Quae similitudo in genere etiam humano apparet. Hoc non est positum in nostra actione. Sin te auctoritas commovebat, nobisne omnibus et Platoni ipsi nescio quem illum anteponebas? Ut proverbia non nulla veriora sint quam vestra dogmata.

Ergo id est convenienter naturae vivere, a natura discedere. Claudii libidini, qui tum erat summo ne imperio, dederetur. Primum cur ista res digna odio est, nisi quod est turpis? Verum audiamus.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi; Pugnant Stoici cum Peripateticis. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Re mihi non aeque satisfacit, et quidem locis pluribus. Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Sic, et quidem diligentius saepiusque ista loquemur inter nos agemusque communiter. Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Paria sunt igitur.

Non est enim vitium in oratione solum, sed etiam in moribus. Sine ea igitur iucunde

negat posse se vivere? Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus. Erit enim instructus ad mortem contemnendam, ad exilium, ad ipsum etiam dolorem. Quasi ego id curem, quid ille aiat aut neget.

Tria genera bonorum; Nulla profecto est, quin suam vim retineat a primo ad extremum. Quo studio Aristophanem putamus aetatem in litteris duxisse? Licet hic rursus ea commemores, quae optimis verbis ab Epicuro de laude amicitiae dicta sunt. Hoc enim constituto in philosophia constituta sunt omnia. Quodcumque in mentem incideret, et quodcumque tamquam occurreret. Negat esse eam, inquit, propter se expetendam. Isto modo ne improbos quidem, si essent boni viri.

Et quidem saepe quaerimus verbum Latinum par Graeco et quod idem valeat; Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Non potes, nisi retexueris illa. Quod autem meum munus dicis non equidem recuso, sed te adiungo socium. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Sed haec quidem liberius ab eo dicuntur et saepius. Tum mihi Piso: Quid ergo? Ergo id est convenienter naturae vivere, a natura discedere.

Sed erat aequius Triarium aliquid de dissensione nostra iudicare. Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Sed plane dicit quod intellegit. Certe non potest. Quae quo sunt excelsiores, eo dant clariora indicia naturae. Iam quae corporis sunt, ea nec auctoritatem cum animi partibus, comparandam et cognitionem habent faciliorem. Nam memini etiam quae nolo, oblivisci non possum quae volo.

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Pollicetur certe. Sint ista Graecorum; Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet. Sed quid ages tandem, si utilitas ab amicitia, ut fit saepe, defecerit?